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Hard Drive and Media Duplication Echo PLUS FAQs

Echo PLUS

All but the first partition is missing from the target drive? How did that happen?
Can the Echo™ clone file systems such as UNIX, and HPFS?
Can the Echo™ clone to dissimilar drives?
Do target drives have to be partitioned and formatted prior to copying?
How does the Echo™ determine the size of partitions on the target drive?
How does the Echo™ handle NT Security Identification ID (SID) duplication issues?
My target drive will not boot. Why?
The Echo™ does not recognize my master (or target) drive?
Why do I sometimes see transfer speeds as fast as 550MB/min, and other times as slow as 200MB/min?
Are NT 4GB FAT16 partitions supported?
Can you briefly explain the difference between mirror copy and CleverCopy™?
Can I copy from a larger drive to a smaller drive?
Can I clone to/from laptop drives?
Can I clone drives with virus protection software installed?
Why do I have an un-partitioned free space at the end of my target drive?
Are Logicube duplicators compatible with Windows 7 operating system?
Can I clone to/from drives larger than 80 Gigabytes?
All but the first partition is missing from the target drive? How did that happen?
This is usually a result of a wrong CHS translation setting. Hit the "Mode" button, and scroll down to the CHS translation mode item. Toggle to the other state (LARGE or LBA), and try to clone again.
Can the Echo™ clone file systems such as UNIX, and HPFS?
Yes, but results are guaranteed only if cloned between identical drives. However, it is reported that UNIX partitions will self-repair upon the first boot.
Can the Echo™ clone to dissimilar drives?
Yes. The Echo™ will take care of all the necessary adjustments of target drive structures to ensure the drive (of any size) will be valid and bootable. Many mixtures of master and target drive sizes (up to 25GB) were tested, and found valid. The above is true for all master drives that contain FAT16/FAT32/NTFS type partitions. Unknown partition types are cloned in mirror mode, and typically require identical (or very similar) master and target drives to guarantee a successful clone.
Do target drives have to be partitioned and formatted prior to copying?
No. Target drives need not be partitioned or otherwise treated. The Echo™ disregards everything on the target drive, and re-formats and partitions the target on-the-fly.
How does the Echo™ determine the size of partitions on the target drive?
In the default CleverCopy™ mode, all known partitions (FAT16/FAT32/NTFS) are scaled proportionally to the ratio of master/target size. All unknown partitions (e.g. HPFS, UNIX etc.) are mirrored, that is they maintain their size. Please note that FAT16 partitions cannot exceed 2.1GB when scaled up, nor be smaller than 32MB when scaled down.
How does the Echo™ handle NT Security Identification ID (SID) duplication issues?
WE DO NOT SUPPLY A SID CHANGING UTILITY - Please refer to www.sysinternals.com and download utility.
My target drive will not boot. Why?

Please check several things:

If the target drive is larger than 4GB, and is hosted by a PC with a Phoenix BIOS dated earlier than Nov. 1997, you may need to set the CHS translation setting to Large, and try to clone again. If this is not the case, please check that the above setting is NOT set to Large, but rather to the default setting: LBA.

Make sure that the first partition selected for cloning on the master consists of a valid operating system, like Win98. Since it is perfectly OK to select a data-only partition to be cloned, one cannot expect to be able to boot from such target.

The Master drive is corrupted. This may not show-up with casual booting of the master, but problems such as cross-linked clusters can cause serious cloning errors. We recommend checking every master with Scandisk prior to cloning. Future software versions of Echo™ will allow "scandisking" the master on the unit.

The Echo™ does not recognize my master (or target) drive?
Make sure that the drive jumpers are set as a single master. Drive jumper settings can be found at the drive manufacturer web site.
Why do I sometimes see transfer speeds as fast as 550MB/min, and other times as slow as 200MB/min?

There are many factors that determine transfer speed:

The age of the drives - The speed of the operation is governed by the slowest drive in the system. If an old drive is used, chances are it cannot sustain high transfer speed. Newer drives have faster electronics and larger caches, and can sustain rates as high as 16MB/sec.

The type of operation performed - When cloning FAT16 partitions, it is sometimes necessary to change the cluster class of the partition. It such cases, the Echo™ "engages" a more complex algorithm to ensure proper alignment of structures on the target. This results in a slower process.

Are NT 4GB FAT16 partitions supported?
Yes.
Can you briefly explain the difference between mirror copy and CleverCopy™?

Mirror copy merely copies all sectors in a given partition (or drive) from the beginning to the specified percentage. It does not look at drive structures, and can thus copy any type of known or unknown data. Since Mirror copy does not determine where useful data start and stop, it ends up copying every sector on the drive, a time consuming operation.

CleverCopy™ analyzes the drive structures, and not only does it only copy sectors that are occupied by useful files and data, it also adjusts the various drive structures to assure a valid and fully partitioned target drive. CleverCopy™ is by far the most recommended mode of cloning.

Can I copy from a larger drive to a smaller drive?
Yes. As long as the data content of each partition fits into the scaled down size of its corresponding partition. Otherwise, an error message will be displayed indicating that the Echo/Solitaire/OmniClone cannot fit data to the target drive(s).

NTFS partitions can be scaled down by approximately 60% due to the master file table that resides in the center of each partition. The error "Cannot fit data to target" can also be caused by a badly fragmented master drive. In such cases, defragmenting the master will generally resolve the issue.
Can I clone to/from laptop drives?
Yes. Logicube sells 2.5" drive adapters, and can provide adapters to many of the special drive connections on the market. Please call for availability. Or, in cases where the drive cannot be removed from the laptop, you can use the parallel port connection or the CloneCard™ for coping through the PCMCIA interface.
Can I clone drives with virus protection software installed?
Yes. But remember to decline the "repair" of the target drive should a virus protection program complain about altered master boot record etc.
Why do I have an un-partitioned free space at the end of my target drive?

This typically occurs when the master drive has FAT16 partitions only, and the target is much larger. FAT16 partitions cannot scale to more than 2.1GB each. FAT32 and NTFS partitions do not suffer from this limitation and will always be scaled up to fill the target drive.

Are Logicube duplicators compatible with Windows 7 operating system?

The Echo Plus, Sonix, SuperSonix, OmniClone Xi and OmniSAS products are compatible with Windows 7 operating system.  Special instructions must be followed to clone Windows 7 drives using CleverCopy mode if the destination drive is larger than the source drive or if the source drives contains a "recovery" partion.  Please see information in the Windows 7 Cloning Guide or the specific Logicube duplicator's users guide or contact our Technical Support department for assistance.

 

Can I clone to/from drives larger than 80 Gigabytes?
Yes. The firmware was designed to support drives up to at least 1TB, in some cases larger than 1TB drives are supported. Check with Logicube Technical Support department for specific information on your model.
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